Fade To Irrelevance: Rig Reccomendations

Processor and Motherboard

Hardware

by: je.saist

What follows is a write I did on computer componets.  It has been edited from the original format for several reasons.  For those wishing to locate the original article, it is aviable here in pdf format.

Part 1: Processor Theory
Part 2: Hardware
Part 3: Thread Response

This portion focus's on the actual hardware in use, so now we'll talk about some brands and what to buy.  Do keep in mind that these prices as quoted literally can change from day to day, and may not be accurate.

Mentioned earlier is the fact that I have a short list of manufacturers that I have found to offer products I consider acceptable.

Asus  :  http://usa.asus.com/

Abit   :  http://www.abit-usa.com/

DFI    :  http://www.dfi.com.tw/index_us_noflash.jsp?SITE=NA

Chaintech  :  http://www.chaintechusa.com/tw/eng/

Sapphire :  http://www.sapphiretech.com/

ECS   :  http://www.ecs.com.tw/


Motherboards

The motherboard is the "heart of the computer" and can easily make or break the computing experience.  A bad or cheap motherboard can cause an instable system. But trying to figure out what motherboard is which can induce a headache.  Motherboards are generally seperated by socket and price-range.

So lets run over some socket combinations:


Intel Processors

Socket 7
Intel Pentium, Cyrix, AMD K5, AMD K6
dead, replaced by Slot 1

Slot 1:
Intel Pentium2, Xeon
dead, replaced by Slot 2

Slot 2:
Intel Pentium2, Xeon
dead, replaced by Socket 370

Socket 370
:
Intel Pentium3, Intel Celeron 
dead, replaced by Socket 478

Socket 478:
Intel Pentium3, Intel Pentium4, Intel Celeron, Intel CeleronD 
Intel budget

Socket LGA 755:
Intel Pentium4, Intel CeleronD EMT, Intel PentiumD
Mid-Range to High End


Socket 479:
Pentium-M (propietary)
Mobile Platform and Server

AMD Processors

Socket 7
Intel Pentium, Cyrix, AMD K5, AMD K6
dead, replaced by Slot A

Slot A:
AMD Athlon
dead, replaced by SocketA

Socket A:
AMD Athlon, AMD Athlon4, AMD AthlonXp, AMD Duron, AMD Sempron 
dead, replaced by Socket 754

Socket 754:
AMD Athlon64, AMD Sempron, AMD Sempron64
Budget Line to Mid Range

Socket 939:
AMD Athlon64, AMD AthlonFX, AMD Athlon X2
Mid Range to High End and Server

Socket 940:
AMD Opteron, AMD AthlonFX 
Server: to be replaced by Socket M2 and Socket F

Socket M2 / Socket F
AMD Opteron, AthlonFX, Athlon X2
DDR2 Memory Controller
Not Yet Available





 
There is a lot of cross-over between different processors and the types of sockets used.  This is why you can find an Intel Pe     ntium4 3.2ghz Northwood for $210 and an Intel Pentium 630 Prescott for the same price.  The P4 Northwood is for socket 478, while the 630 which has a lower clockspeed and supports X86-64 is for Socket LGA 775.

When you go shopping for a motherboard keep your socket in mind as your upgrade path will be limited by the socket.  For example, while Socket A boards are very cheap now, there is no upgrade path beyond the AthlonXp 3200+.


AMD has a distinct advantage in the motherboard space as well as processors.  If you bought a socket 939 motherboard you should be able to use a Dual-Core AMD Athlon X2 just by upgrading the bios.  Currently, as far as I know, all shipping 939 motherboards support Dual Core Athlon X2 out of the box.  You can also run dual core processors on current 350watt power supplies. You can get away with a 400watt power supply with ATi CrossFire and AthlonX2.  If you intend to run Nvidia SLI, you probably want to play it safe at 500watt, although Antec's true power 430watt worked well in my case.

If you want to use a dual core processor with Intel you will have to buy a brand new motherboard as well as making sure you have at least a 500 watt power supply.  From what I've tested, I'd actually reccomend a 600watt or HIGHER power supply if you have intentions to run Nvidia SLI or ATi CrossFire.



Chipsets

The chipset is the part of the computer that connects the Central Processor to the rest of the computer. Items such as your hard-drives, Optical Drives, PCI Bus, AGP Bus, and just about all other functions are routed through the Chipsets known as Northbride and Southbridge.  The typcial model of the Northbridge includes the memory controller that the processor uses to access System-RAM.  AMD X86-64 processors, however, have the memory controller on the processor itself which elimates much of the performance difference between Northbridge types.

Chipset overview
SiS : Silicon Integrated Systems

Makes chipsets for budget boards.  Functions may not be as fast as other chipsets. Tends to be stable. No or limited overclocks in retail products although test systems tend to be mind blowing.
Via : Via Technologies

Makes chipsets for low end to high end motherboards.  Functions can vary. Tend to be stable. Mid range overclocks
Nvidia

Makes chipsets for High end motherboards. Functions tend to be the best available. Drivers need a re-write and problems filed in 2001 and 2002 still have not been addressed. First to market with a working multiple GPU system using PCI-Express (SLI). However, there are many restrictions on SLI performance and compatible products. High range overclocks
ATi
Makes chipsets for budget to high end motherboards. Functions can vary. Tends to be stable. First to market with multiple GPU systems on AGP (surroundview), Second to market with working multiple GPU systems using PCI-Express (crossfire). Few restrictions on Cross Fire products and performance.  High range overclocks
Intel
Makes chipsets for budget to high end motherboards. Functions can vary. Tends to be stable. Makes CrossFire compatible systems.  No sanctioned overclocks.



Time to take a look at some actual retail products.

Socket 754:
For those on a budget and looking at ECS's 755-A2 board. It weighs in at about $43 over at Newegg.  With the release of Sempron64 you can pick up a X86-64 processor for under $100 and have an upgrade path to the socket 754 Athlon64's. Currently the Socket 754 Athlon64 tops out at 3700+, but there are some indications that it could be joined by a 3800+ or 3900+ early 2006.

I think that the best board currently avaible for Socket 754 is DFI's Lan Party UT.  You can nab it for around $110 if you look around 

The Lan Party UT has been the only one to stably run my A64 3200+ at 2.4ghz.


Socket 939:
Currently the ultimate upgrade path. Already houses the dominating Athlon64 4000+ with native support for AthlonX2.

Of the budget boards to pass through my hands, ECS's 939 board was one of my fav's.  You can get it for around $74 off of newegg.

Soltek also had an AGP version I liked, weighs in at about $105

Of the high-end 939 boards I've run through here, DFI also caught my attention.

For PCI-Express the DFI UT NF4 performes well at $125 :

For Nvidia-SLI, be prepared to drop out some cash  : DFI puts out an SLI at $170

However, I haven't had hands on it.


Another good brand I've hands on with is Abit's Fatal1ty lineup. 

http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=246

http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=262

However, at the time of posting, I most of the sources I trust were sold out.




Socket 478 / Socket LGA 775

Since I don't have very many Intel systems move though the business I do, I don't have a list of favorites I can reccomend.  I trust ATi and have had good experiences with the Radeon IGP systems.  However, while Radeon 9100 IGP boards are easy to find, the Radeon Xpress 200 Intel boards are still hard to find.

http://www.ati.com/products/radeonxpress200intel/index.html

If you are in the market for an Intel board, read around http://www.anandtech.com or http://www.hardocp.com first.




What follows is one of the comparision lists I made up for one of my clients. 

Keep in mind that this is a budget box, intended to offer decent performance while presuming that you want to stay under $1000. Actually, the "power system" I think slips under $800 with Fed-Ex or UPS ground shipping. Also keep in mind that many of the listed prices are probably no longer accurate. Just follow through the links or look for the brands.


Frag Box Tower:


$53.00 Motherboard: ECS 755-A2

SiS 755 based Athlon 64 platform.


$115.00 Processor: AMD Athlon64 2800+

AMD's lowest A64 processor.  Has both 64bit and 32 bit capabilities. 


$29.00 CPU Cooler: Thermaltake Silent Boost A64

     One of the quietest coolers for A64


$76.00 Memory: 512megs DDR Dual Channel Kit

     PQI is a new brand on the market, but reviews place the modules as a good low cost memory brand. 


$25.00  Sound Card : Via Envy

     Via Envy is considered to be one of the best sound cards available on the market.  Quality is on par or better than Sound Blaster Audigy 2. 


Video Card 1
$99.00  Video Card: Radeon 9600 XT 256meg

     Acceptable performace in Half-Life 2 and Doom3.  What more do you really need?


Video Card 2
$91.00  Video Card: Radeon 9600 XT 128meg

     Half the memory, but saves on cost.


Video Card 3
$197  Video Card : Radeon 9800 Pro

     More expensive, but more power.


Hard Drive 1
$84.00  Hard Drive: Hitachi 160 Gig SATA

     Never let space be an issue


Hard Drive 2
$64.00  Hard Drive: Hitachi 80 gig SATA

     Half the space at more than the half the price


DVD Drive 1
$46.00  DVD Writer: Lite-On Dual Layer writer

     Writes all formats of DVD discs.


DVD Drive 2
$21.00  DVD Drive: Lite-On Drive

   No write support. But will play Movies


Power Supply 1
$65.00  Power Supply : Antec 430watt

     Antec's supplies are considered to be some of the quietest supplies around. 


Power Supply 2
$51.00  Power Supply : Vantec 400watt

     Vantec is one of the other highly regarded Power Supply manufacturers.


Power Supply 3
$46.00  Power Supply : Antec 350watt

     Shave off some power and and price


Power Supply 4
$43.00  Power Supply : Vantec 350watt

     Shave off some power and price


Tower 1
$85.00  Case : Foxconn tower

     Call it high end. Plenty of room.


Tower 2
$25.00  Case : Color case standard

     Low end case.


Price Range:

Rig List – High Performance:

$53.00   Motherboard
$115.00  Processor
$29.00   Cooler
$76.00   Memory
$25.00   Sound Card
$197.00  Graphics Card 3
$84.00   Hard Drive 1
$46.00   Dvd Writer
$65.00   Power Supply 1
$85.00   Tower 1

$775


Price Range:

Rig List – Medium Performance


$53.00   Motherboard
$115.00  Processor
$29.00   Cooler
$76.00   Memory
$25.00   Sound Card
$91.00  Graphics Card 1
$64.00   Hard Drive 2
$46.00   Dvd Writer
$65.00   Power Supply 1
$85.00   Tower 1

$649



Rig List – Budget

$53.00   Motherboard
$115.00  Processor
$29.00   Cooler
$76.00   Memory
$91.00  Graphics Card 2
$64.00   Hard Drive 2
$21.00   DVD Player
$43.00   Power Supply 4
$25.00   Case 2

$517








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